[VicPiMakers Projects] Jim's Challenge - Output 10 (caesar cipher)
Michelle Wiboltt
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Sun Oct 11 23:53:00 EDT 2020
Couldn’t the musical notes go in the spaces, seat fillers:)
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And off to the corpses...life everlasting... .see?🥳
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Oh, maybe we change corpus’? Wouldn’t that be easier?
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Subject: Re: [VicPiMakers Projects] Jim's Challenge - Output 10 (caesar cipher)
That's certainly crafty.
I considered that but again you need to make more assumptions like you're using the same corpus of words. What if it's not an English word. What if it's not a regular word but a name. What about words that have multiple possible matches because multiple rotations are valid? (e.g. "FUSION" and "LAYOUT"). Then do you output multiple possible keys?
On Sun., Oct. 11, 2020, 7:36 p.m. Mark G., <vpm at palaceofretention.ca<mailto:vpm at palaceofretention.ca>> wrote:
Hi Patrick et al,
I decided that a simple brute force through keys 1-26 and then
checking the output using a spell checker library could work.
Here's a snippet:
...
#include <nuspell/dictionary.hxx>
#include <nuspell/finder.hxx>
...
// vector for deciphered message
std::vector<char> message;
// Key (unknown) for ceaser cipher.
int key = 0;
int offset {'A'};
int message_letter {'0'};
auto dict_finder = nuspell::Finder::search_all_dirs_for_dicts();
auto path = dict_finder.get_dictionary_path("en_US");
auto dict = nuspell::Dictionary::load_from_path(path);
// Go through all keys
for (key = 1; key <= 26; key++) {
message.clear();
// letters contains our encrypted text
for (const auto letter : letters) {
message_letter = offset + (((letter - offset) - key + 26) %
26);
message.emplace_back(tolower(message_letter));
}
auto word = std::string(message.data(), message.size());
auto correct = dict.spell(word);
if (correct) {
break;
}
}
print_output_and_number(output_number++);
std::cout << "Key: " << key << std::endl;
==============
What happens is that each key is tried in turn and a word is created
out of all 6 letters. This word is then compared against a spell
checker, and if a correct result is found, then there is a high
likelyhood that we've found the key and we break out of the key loop.
This requires no prior knowledge of the plain text, but can be
computationally expensive.
On 2020-10-11 3:46 p.m., Patrick McMorris wrote:
> Ok, thanks.
>
> Then there are two inputs; not just the data array. Question 10 implied
> a second input will be provided.
>
> On Sun., Oct. 11, 2020, 3:37 p.m. James Briante, <briantej at gmail.com<mailto:briantej at gmail.com>
> <mailto:briantej at gmail.com<mailto:briantej at gmail.com>>> wrote:
>
> Hi Patrick,
> Here is the last sentence of the comment I posted today at 2:31 PM
> "The final test data will include a new string not “BIOPSY”.
>
> Jim
>
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 11, 2020 at 3:19 PM Patrick McMorris
> <patrick at mcmorris.ca<mailto:patrick at mcmorris.ca> <mailto:patrick at mcmorris.ca<mailto:patrick at mcmorris.ca>>> wrote:
>
> Hello Jim,
>
> Your instructions are unclear and we're just asking you to
> clearly address the issue.
>
> If you want our code to output the key used then either we
> assume the word is the same or your next update also provides a
> new word in addition to a new byte array.
>
> Which is it?
>
> On Sun., Oct. 11, 2020, 2:32 p.m. James Briante,
> <briantej at gmail.com<mailto:briantej at gmail.com> <mailto:briantej at gmail.com<mailto:briantej at gmail.com>>> wrote:
>
> Craig, Patrick, Greg & Others,
>
> Note that the string “BIOPSY” is not part of the input data
> but included in the description of Output#10 in order to
> simplify things. If “BIOPSY” appears in your code, you have
> created an *implicit input* to simplify things. The final
> test data will include a new string not “BIOPSY”.
>
> Consider the implication of not having known the plaintext
> “BIOPSY”. One solution would be to write separate code (not
> part of the solution to Challenge1) that sequentially
> reverses the encryption process. Why not do so and then just
> print 6 for Output #10?
>
> The above method requires human intervention in order to
> recognize meaningful words during the decryption process.
> Why not write code to remove the human out of the loop?
> Hopefully, that explains why the string *“BIOPSY*” was a
> good choice for Challenge 1.
>
> Jim
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 11, 2020 at 9:52 AM Michelle Wiboltt
> <michellewiboltt at outlook.com<mailto:michellewiboltt at outlook.com>
> <mailto:michellewiboltt at outlook.com<mailto:michellewiboltt at outlook.com>>> wrote:
>
> Also, instead of exclamation! ? for instance, why can’t
> these be illustrated as musical notes so that we come to
> learn /to understand tempo/crescendo/intent...plus,
> “music tames the savage beast”, non? So wouldn’t we want
> to gift “those extraterrestrials” with this type of
> advantage, which is really our advantage in that we set
> the tone:)
>
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> *Subject:* Re: [VicPiMakers Projects] Jim's Challenge -
> Output 10 (caesar cipher)
> Nice one Eileen! Solving it in Scratch sounds like a
> challenge.
>
> Has anyone considered trying it in a pure functional
> language?
>
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> On Sun, 11 Oct 2020 at 09:35, Michelle Wiboltt
> <michellewiboltt at outlook.com<mailto:michellewiboltt at outlook.com>
> <mailto:michellewiboltt at outlook.com<mailto:michellewiboltt at outlook.com>>> wrote:
>
> Is it a question of overthinking? Me, I see it as a
> question of “over” feeling things - on steroids, no
> less and from here/there, building a “visual”
> conceptual foundation of these wonderfully warm
> feelings for all to see/feel/utilize AND understand.
>
> It kind of needs to contain our existing or newly
> conceived of “absolute love language”...like an and.
> And always conjoins so, what word, string, etc?
> always conjoins the all of the all of us...then, we
> mirror our movement with/by that spin around the
> world thing, same as our world, non?
>
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> *Subject:* Re: [VicPiMakers Projects] Jim's
> Challenge - Output 10 (caesar cipher)
> Hey everyone,
>
> Just solved challenge #1 using Scratch. Hope the new
> ‘Test’ data will work just as well. Intend on
> showing you what I did at the end of my presentation
> on Oct 24.
>
> Have a nice week,
> Eileen
>
>> On Oct 11, 2020, at 9:15 AM, Michelle Wiboltt
>> <michellewiboltt at outlook.com<mailto:michellewiboltt at outlook.com>
>> <mailto:michellewiboltt at outlook.com<mailto:michellewiboltt at outlook.com>>> wrote:
>>
>> Ok, but there IS a watermark? thing...so, this
>> needs to be illustrated meaning, if we’re creating
>> a love �� language we want that to show in its
>> entirety AND if “bad” people “break” in...aren’t
>> they just asking to be included? wouldn’t it be a
>> wanting but not knowing how to be a part of this
>> fabulousity that is the (our) language of love ��
>> So, if they “break” in doesn’t it stand to reason
>> they were left out. Isn’t that our bad?
>>
>> Also, a language of love would have to be, would
>> need to, continually fortified in order for it to
>> remain foundation-ally strong, right white lights?
>> And, its strength comes from our ever evolving
>> understanding/feeling/sensing/knowing of what our
>> hearts are truly capable of and then, illustrating
>> this in the majesty that WILL be our code that You
>> all create, see?
>>
>> Also, just a thought, what about that bit coin
>> spin around the world tor thing...if we built our
>> foundation on something like this wouldn’t this
>> keep any nasty extraterrestrials at bay but
>> wouldn’t it also, keep us ALL contained herein,
>> safely.
>> m
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>> *Subject:* Re: [VicPiMakers Projects] Jim's
>> Challenge - Output 10 (caesar cipher)
>> I agree it's not that clear.
>>
>> If the goal to be able to simply run the existing
>> code on new input bytes then yes, "BIOPSY" is
>> always the decrypted word since the byte array is
>> the only given input. If the word changes, that
>> hasn't been specified where that input would come
>> from. So, either it doesn't change or the
>> description of the second input is missing.
>>
>> But using a hard-coded word doesn't sound terribly
>> interesting to code up. You could still write your
>> key finding function to accept two strings of
>> equal length and output the required caesar key.
>> Then for question #10, call it with the word you
>> extract from the input array and the hard-coded
>> target word and write the output key. Then the
>> problem is hard-coded but your code is more generic.
>>
>>
>> Patrick
>>
>> On Sun., Oct. 11, 2020, 8:01 a.m. Greg H,
>> <greg.horie at gmail.com<mailto:greg.horie at gmail.com>
>> <mailto:greg.horie at gmail.com<mailto:greg.horie at gmail.com>>> wrote:
>>
>> For me, the confusion is that we're intended
>> to write code to derive the cipher key value.
>> I did this and came up with an answer, but
>> this key is only relevant "HOUVYE" / "BIOPSY".
>>
>> So should I take this key and make it a
>> constant for future inputs / encryptions?
>> That's what I ended up doing with my final
>> code submission.
>>
>> I took out the code that solved the problem
>> because unused code seems like lint to me, but
>> maybe I should put it back to show how I did it.
>>
>>
>> On Sat, 10 Oct 2020 at 17:45, James Briante
>> <briantej at gmail.com<mailto:briantej at gmail.com>
>> <mailto:briantej at gmail.com<mailto:briantej at gmail.com>>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Patrick,
>> Yes, you can look at only the first
>> character of the string and use it to get
>> the key. Comparing all characters as the
>> advantage of catching errors in
>> encryption/decryption. The code is just as
>> short using "compare strings" of your
>> particular language.
>>
>> In C int strcmp (const char* str1, const
>> char* str2);, in C++
>> *int**CompareText*(*const*AnsiString *S1*,
>> *const*AnsiString *S2*); Pascal ( Delphi)
>> *function**CompareText*(*const**S1*:
>> *string*; *const**S2*: *string*): Integer;
>>
>> Aside: The purpose of the final test data
>> is to see if your outputs are correct when
>> you run your code with the new data. It
>> should work the first time with no changes
>> in the actual code.
>> Jim
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 10, 2020 at 4:46 PM George
>> Bowden <gtbowdeng at gmail.com<mailto:gtbowdeng at gmail.com>
>> <mailto:gtbowdeng at gmail.com<mailto:gtbowdeng at gmail.com>>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Michelle
>> If you are on a laptop or computer
>> using chrome, you can hold down the
>> CTRL key and tap the letter u . There
>> are things further back than that but
>> its a start. As for ink marks showing
>> through, we try to avoid that because
>> it usually reveals security holes that
>> the bad people exploit.
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 10, 2020 at 1:23 PM
>> Michelle Wiboltt
>> <michellewiboltt at outlook.com<mailto:michellewiboltt at outlook.com>
>> <mailto:michellewiboltt at outlook.com<mailto:michellewiboltt at outlook.com>>>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Please help:)
>> Here’s where my crazy comes in,
>> see this image...
>> <Image.jpeg>
>> Ok.
>>
>> Now, if u could think in terms of
>> front back / embroidery and its
>> front back...
>> So, above is a code interface? But
>> where is the back front and back?
>> Front would be the website, right?
>> So, when I do online shopping,
>> that’s the front. Where is the
>> back view of the front of the
>> website?
>>
>> Another example, when writing in
>> ink it can show through the
>> backside when held to the light,
>> kind of thing is what I’m trying
>> to understand? Where’s that on the
>> internet?
>>
>> Thx
>> m
>>
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>> *Subject:* [VicPiMakers Projects]
>> Jim's Challenge - Output 10
>> (caesar cipher)
>> I'm looking for clarification on
>> output 10 - caesar cipher problem.
>>
>> Is the intent to calculate the
>> caesar cipher key value OR is the
>> intent to encrypt the string with
>> a pre-determined key? Initially I
>> thought the question was to
>> discover the cipher key value, but
>> on reflection this seems fragile.
>>
>> Reasoning:
>> - "BIOPSY" will work for the 12
>> integer input that leads to
>> "HOUVYE", but it will not work for
>> any 12 random integers.
>> - You'd have to reverse engineer
>> your integers starting from
>> "BIOPSY" to get a valid set of 12
>> integers.
>>
>> I solved it both ways, but posted
>> only the 2nd solution to github
>> because only the 2nd solution will
>> work for a random set of 12 integers.
>>
>> I'm curious how other folks solved
>> this one.
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