<div dir="ltr">I'm interested in health monitors (temperature, blood-oxygen pulse, fall down) on tiny microcontrollers with wireless (blue tooth or wifi or IR).<div>Teamwork motivates me. e.g. designing the low pass active filter op-amps for my blood oxygen meters have slowed my progress, especially now that my commercial model arrived. Being part of a team project would motivate me. </div><div><br></div><div> Need to figure how to overcome my lack of willingness to compromise from the design parameters I have in my head... I'm very stubborn, and no-one is paying me to compromise. Also I'm incredibly lazy. How do they do this with open-source? Often I see one person repositories on github, except for huge projects.
So partitioning project required, with no part mandatory.
</div><div><br></div><div>Also interested in electrolysis of water to get oxygen into my nose. Hic...</div><div>As I said before, the liability is huge. </div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Apr 18, 2020 at 1:58 PM Deid Reimer <<a href="mailto:deid@drsol.com">deid@drsol.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Hi All,<br>
<br>
A few of us have been discussing a Vic Pi Makers group project over the last week. This is where we have got to. I thought it would be <br>
useful to bring the whole steering group into the discussion. So here it is. Start at the bottom and Sorry.<br>
<br>
And, if you have ideas, please share them with the steering group.<br>
<br>
Cheers<br>
<br>
Deid<br>
<br>
On 4/16/20 9:20 AM, Catherin Gregory wrote:<br>
> Hi All ...<br>
> I have to apologize for being absent this week. Our final move <br>
> adaptations were required as our landlord starts charging for storage <br>
> this month... <br>
><br>
> When I suggested a webserver I most definitely had in mind that it <br>
> would do something useful. Something, unlike our avoidance robot which <br>
> only avoided things.<br>
> Here is my idea ... feel free to poke holes. George's oxygen monitor <br>
> was my inspiration.<br>
> A rpi that would serve one's health data in a browser. That data would <br>
> be an individual's health and or other family/friends too. In other <br>
> words, an rpi health monitor, recorder, and data output server. A unit <br>
> that could record temp and oxygen and other data points suitable to a <br>
> rpi and points that could be entered via wi-fi or just inputted into a <br>
> form, ie: weight. Then output that data to some graphs and or voice <br>
> all accessible via browser.<br>
><br>
> Just a thought. Have at it.<br>
><br>
> Cody<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 7:40 AM Greg H <<a href="mailto:greg.horie@gmail.com" target="_blank">greg.horie@gmail.com</a> <br>
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:greg.horie@gmail.com" target="_blank">greg.horie@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> Thanks for inviting me to the conversation.<br>
><br>
> *Team Project*<br>
> Yes, I'm interested in a group project and I love the idea that<br>
> our hobby project can be used to benefit of others. If we're<br>
> looking for a raison d'etre, I think we're already looking at tech<br>
> that keeps us off-cloud. Building a common control panel /<br>
> dashboard for these technologies may be something to consider.<br>
><br>
> *Slack Alternatives*<br>
> For a Slack-like server, my first thought goes to IRC (which I<br>
> still like and use for certain open source projects), but the<br>
> barrier to entry is a problem. I feel like our communication<br>
> choices should serve all folks with ease so we can encourage as<br>
> much use as possible. IRC doesn't meet this requirement. Even the<br>
> GUI versions I've tried have some odd barriers to entry.<br>
><br>
> There is an open source project called MatterMost<br>
> <<a href="https://mattermost.com/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://mattermost.com/</a>> that shoots for an experience similar to<br>
> Slack/Discord/Teams. That would be my choice for a trial. They<br>
> have browser access for Chrome/Firefox/Safari, desktop apps for<br>
> Linux/Mac/Win, and mobile apps for Android/IOS. It looks like they<br>
> even have integration with some email clients. We'd need at<br>
> minimum 1 CPU core and 2 GB RAM which supports up to 1000 users.<br>
> Also some disk space for the MySQL database. For our group at<br>
> current chat volumes, I think we'd be okay with a couple of GBs.<br>
> More details here<br>
> <<a href="https://docs.mattermost.com/install/requirements.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://docs.mattermost.com/install/requirements.html</a>>.<br>
><br>
> I did find instructions on Github to install MatterMost on an RPi<br>
> <<a href="https://github.com/justinegeffen/mattermost_raspberrypi_recipe" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/justinegeffen/mattermost_raspberrypi_recipe</a>><br>
> which uses the ARM-compiled binary from this SmartHoneyBee<br>
> <<a href="https://github.com/SmartHoneybee/ubiquitous-memory/releases/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/SmartHoneybee/ubiquitous-memory/releases/</a>><br>
> project. The problem here is that this is way off the beaten track<br>
> from the MatterMost open source project, so how much trust do we<br>
> place in a project like this vs. alternatives. I'd be more<br>
> comfortable if the MatterMost project built their own ARM-compiled<br>
> binaries. We could also try to compile our own, but that's a lot<br>
> of work as well.<br>
><br>
> *Github*<br>
> If we do settle on a project, I encourage our team to use Github.<br>
> It is the best option for collaborating on open source software.<br>
> We could try a competitor like Gitlab or BitBucket, but Github has<br>
> the most eyeballs. That's where we'll get the most interest if we<br>
> ever look at expanding the scope of the project.<br>
><br>
> Cheers,<br>
> Greg<br>
><br>
> On Wed, 15 Apr 2020 at 15:10, Deid Reimer <<a href="mailto:deid@drsol.com" target="_blank">deid@drsol.com</a><br>
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:deid@drsol.com" target="_blank">deid@drsol.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> Hi All,<br>
><br>
> I have added Greg Horie to this email list.<br>
><br>
> And another topic for consideration. A slack-like server to<br>
> keep our conversations off of Slacks servers.<br>
><br>
> Thoughts?<br>
><br>
> And thoughts on how to proceed with this. Is there interest<br>
> among several people? Should we send this out to the Steering<br>
> group list? The<br>
> other list (which I can never remember the name of)?<br>
><br>
> Deid<br>
><br>
><br>
> On 4/14/20 12:54 PM, Craig Miller wrote:<br>
> > Deid,<br>
> ><br>
> > I have no problem with what you are proposing. It is my hope<br>
> that whatever we create that it have a useful life beyond the<br>
> act of creating<br>
> > it. Of course, having learning as part of the creation is a<br>
> key element.<br>
> ><br>
> > You list is an excellent thought starter.<br>
> ><br>
> > Another thought to add to the list, would be a 'slack-like'<br>
> website that would not only support IPv6, but also keep our<br>
> conversations off of<br>
> > Slack's servers. Jabber does this, and if it was web-driven<br>
> AND supported jabber (aka XMPP) clients, all the better.<br>
> ><br>
> > Craig...<br>
> ><br>
> > On 4/14/20 9:38 AM, Deid Reimer wrote:<br>
> >> Good morning all,<br>
> >><br>
> >> I waited to reply so that others might reply first. <br>
> Hearing none ...<br>
> >><br>
> >> Craig I agree it would be good to pursue a loftier goal. I<br>
> did not have that in mind. I was thinking more about our<br>
> folks learning<br>
> >> something new and having a purpose for us communicating<br>
> with each other during our isolation. And, if that is towards<br>
> something useful<br>
> >> even better.<br>
> >><br>
> >> So suggestions for a goal/purpose? Perhaps a web server<br>
> that ... Or not a web server that ...<br>
> >><br>
> >> Things that were mentioned at Saturdays meeting:<br>
> >><br>
> >> - Web Server<br>
> >> - django<br>
> >> - jabber<br>
> >> - lms moodle - for learning and teaching<br>
> >> - link checker<br>
> >> - management software<br>
> >> - nagios I'm thinking something that prevents the<br>
> vicpimakers site from going down without us knowing. <br>
> (<a href="http://bigsister.ch" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">bigsister.ch</a> <<a href="http://bigsister.ch" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://bigsister.ch</a>>)<br>
> >><br>
> >> And your suggestions of IOT and ...<br>
> >><br>
> >> I have nothing in mind really. I just want to keep on<br>
> learning and teaching.<br>
> >><br>
> >> So far there are just the 4 of us in this discussion as I<br>
> didn't want to spam everyone. Should we open up the discussion?<br>
> >><br>
> >> Cheers<br>
> >><br>
> >> Deid<br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
> >> On 4/11/20 4:45 PM, Craig Miller wrote:<br>
> >>> Hi Deid,<br>
> >>><br>
> >>> I think we are getting a little ahead of ourselves.<br>
> Although Cody's idea is<br>
> >>> a good one, I think a webserver should be just one<br>
> component of that we<br>
> >>> build as a project.<br>
> >>><br>
> >>> I think we should look for a loftier goal. A Project that<br>
> either:<br>
> >>> a) helps the club (some sort of online resource)<br>
> >>> b) helps a non-profit (with some online resource)<br>
> >>><br>
> >>> Then, once we identity a goal which, in my opinion, makes<br>
> the project more<br>
> >>> than just a homework exercise. We could in parallel poll<br>
> for people's<br>
> >>> skills and how that might help build the Goal Project. For<br>
> example, setting<br>
> >>> up a Database, and connecting it to a webserver may be a<br>
> skill. If we<br>
> >>> created an online resource that would benefit from a<br>
> database (like an<br>
> >>> inventory of donated items, in thinking non-profit) then<br>
> the person with<br>
> >>> that skill would be very useful.<br>
> >>><br>
> >>> Then we could map skills/volunteers with the pieces of the<br>
> project.<br>
> >>><br>
> >>> Naturally I would like to help with the networking side.<br>
> >>><br>
> >>> The Project wouldn't have to be a single device. For<br>
> example, it should be<br>
> >>> a sensor system, with a Pi at the core, and ESP32s as<br>
> distributed sensors<br>
> >>> (think: security system, monitoring lights, motion, doors,<br>
> temperature).<br>
> >>> The Pi could be running Node Red, using LetsEncrypt for<br>
> TLS, perhaps a<br>
> >>> Database which allows authorized people to log in and<br>
> check things. Perhaps<br>
> >>> even have it send emails (over TLS) should parameters go<br>
> out of spec<br>
> >>> (lights turn on when they shouldn't, temp drops too low).<br>
> >>><br>
> >>> If we create a project for someone else (not VicPiMakers)<br>
> then I think the<br>
> >>> code should be as generic and open source. So that anyone<br>
> can pick up what<br>
> >>> was made and improve/add to it. If we are only creating a<br>
> project for<br>
> >>> VicPiMakers, then there could be more customized code,<br>
> since the club<br>
> >>> member would be easily available to update it, as needs arise.<br>
> >>><br>
> >>> Those are my thoughts,<br>
> >>><br>
> >>> Craig...<br>
> >>><br>
> ><br>
><br>
Hi Craig,<br>
<br>
Thanks for doing the presentation this morning. Great job. The "presentation overhead" screen worked well and the passing of the envelope <br>
was brilliant.<br>
<br>
There was some interest in doing a group web browser. Thoughts on coordinating it?<br>
<br>
The following people were in attendance, in no particular order:<br>
<br>
David<br>
Don<br>
Greg<br>
Murray<br>
Lynne<br>
Don<br>
Stan<br>
Craig<br>
George<br>
Mark<br>
Cody<br>
Michael<br>
Pauline<br>
Deid<br>
<br>
Cheers<br>
<br>
Deid<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
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</blockquote></div><br clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div>George Bowden, vice president, Victoria Computer Club<br><a href="mailto:gtbowdeng@gmail.com" target="_blank">gtbowdeng@gmail.com</a></div></div></div>