<div dir="auto"><div>That's certainly crafty.<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I considered that but again you need to make more assumptions like you're using the same corpus of words. What if it's not an English word. What if it's not a regular word but a name. What about words that have multiple possible matches because multiple rotations are valid? (e.g. "FUSION" and "LAYOUT"). Then do you output multiple possible keys?</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun., Oct. 11, 2020, 7:36 p.m. Mark G., <<a href="mailto:vpm@palaceofretention.ca">vpm@palaceofretention.ca</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi Patrick et al,<br>
<br>
I decided that a simple brute force through keys 1-26 and then<br>
checking the output using a spell checker library could work.<br>
<br>
Here's a snippet:<br>
<br>
...<br>
#include <nuspell/dictionary.hxx><br>
#include <nuspell/finder.hxx><br>
...<br>
<br>
// vector for deciphered message<br>
std::vector<char> message;<br>
<br>
// Key (unknown) for ceaser cipher.<br>
int key = 0;<br>
<br>
int offset {'A'};<br>
int message_letter {'0'};<br>
<br>
auto dict_finder = nuspell::Finder::search_all_dirs_for_dicts();<br>
auto path = dict_finder.get_dictionary_path("en_US");<br>
auto dict = nuspell::Dictionary::load_from_path(path);<br>
<br>
// Go through all keys<br>
for (key = 1; key <= 26; key++) {<br>
<br>
message.clear();<br>
// letters contains our encrypted text<br>
for (const auto letter : letters) {<br>
message_letter = offset + (((letter - offset) - key + 26) % <br>
26);<br>
message.emplace_back(tolower(message_letter));<br>
}<br>
<br>
auto word = std::string(message.data(), message.size());<br>
<br>
auto correct = dict.spell(word);<br>
if (correct) {<br>
break;<br>
}<br>
}<br>
print_output_and_number(output_number++);<br>
std::cout << "Key: " << key << std::endl;<br>
<br>
==============<br>
<br>
What happens is that each key is tried in turn and a word is created<br>
out of all 6 letters. This word is then compared against a spell<br>
checker, and if a correct result is found, then there is a high<br>
likelyhood that we've found the key and we break out of the key loop.<br>
<br>
This requires no prior knowledge of the plain text, but can be<br>
computationally expensive.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
On 2020-10-11 3:46 p.m., Patrick McMorris wrote:<br>
> Ok, thanks.<br>
> <br>
> Then there are two inputs; not just the data array. Question 10 implied <br>
> a second input will be provided.<br>
> <br>
> On Sun., Oct. 11, 2020, 3:37 p.m. James Briante, <<a href="mailto:briantej@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">briantej@gmail.com</a> <br>
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:briantej@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">briantej@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
> <br>
> Hi Patrick,<br>
> Here is the last sentence of the comment I posted today at 2:31 PM<br>
> "The final test data will include a new string not “BIOPSY”.<br>
> <br>
> Jim<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> On Sun, Oct 11, 2020 at 3:19 PM Patrick McMorris<br>
> <<a href="mailto:patrick@mcmorris.ca" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">patrick@mcmorris.ca</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:patrick@mcmorris.ca" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">patrick@mcmorris.ca</a>>> wrote:<br>
> <br>
> Hello Jim,<br>
> <br>
> Your instructions are unclear and we're just asking you to<br>
> clearly address the issue.<br>
> <br>
> If you want our code to output the key used then either we<br>
> assume the word is the same or your next update also provides a<br>
> new word in addition to a new byte array.<br>
> <br>
> Which is it?<br>
> <br>
> On Sun., Oct. 11, 2020, 2:32 p.m. James Briante,<br>
> <<a href="mailto:briantej@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">briantej@gmail.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:briantej@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">briantej@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
> <br>
> Craig, Patrick, Greg & Others,<br>
> <br>
> Note that the string “BIOPSY” is not part of the input data<br>
> but included in the description of Output#10 in order to<br>
> simplify things. If “BIOPSY” appears in your code, you have<br>
> created an *implicit input* to simplify things. The final<br>
> test data will include a new string not “BIOPSY”.<br>
> <br>
> Consider the implication of not having known the plaintext<br>
> “BIOPSY”. One solution would be to write separate code (not<br>
> part of the solution to Challenge1) that sequentially<br>
> reverses the encryption process. Why not do so and then just<br>
> print 6 for Output #10?<br>
> <br>
> The above method requires human intervention in order to<br>
> recognize meaningful words during the decryption process.<br>
> Why not write code to remove the human out of the loop?<br>
> Hopefully, that explains why the string *“BIOPSY*” was a<br>
> good choice for Challenge 1.<br>
> <br>
> Jim<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> On Sun, Oct 11, 2020 at 9:52 AM Michelle Wiboltt<br>
> <<a href="mailto:michellewiboltt@outlook.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">michellewiboltt@outlook.com</a><br>
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:michellewiboltt@outlook.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">michellewiboltt@outlook.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
> <br>
> Also, instead of exclamation! ? for instance, why can’t<br>
> these be illustrated as musical notes so that we come to<br>
> learn /to understand tempo/crescendo/intent...plus,<br>
> “music tames the savage beast”, non? So wouldn’t we want<br>
> to gift “those extraterrestrials” with this type of<br>
> advantage, which is really our advantage in that we set<br>
> the tone:)<br>
> <br>
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> *Subject:* Re: [VicPiMakers Projects] Jim's Challenge -<br>
> Output 10 (caesar cipher)<br>
> Nice one Eileen! Solving it in Scratch sounds like a<br>
> challenge.<br>
> <br>
> Has anyone considered trying it in a pure functional<br>
> language?<br>
> <br>
> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Functional_programming" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Functional_programming</a><br>
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> <br>
> <br>
> On Sun, 11 Oct 2020 at 09:35, Michelle Wiboltt<br>
> <<a href="mailto:michellewiboltt@outlook.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">michellewiboltt@outlook.com</a><br>
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:michellewiboltt@outlook.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">michellewiboltt@outlook.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
> <br>
> Is it a question of overthinking? Me, I see it as a<br>
> question of “over” feeling things - on steroids, no<br>
> less and from here/there, building a “visual”<br>
> conceptual foundation of these wonderfully warm<br>
> feelings for all to see/feel/utilize AND understand.<br>
> <br>
> It kind of needs to contain our existing or newly<br>
> conceived of “absolute love language”...like an and.<br>
> And always conjoins so, what word, string, etc?<br>
> always conjoins the all of the all of us...then, we<br>
> mirror our movement with/by that spin around the<br>
> world thing, same as our world, non?<br>
> <br>
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> of Eileen Amirault <<a href="mailto:cody.eileen@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">cody.eileen@gmail.com</a><br>
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:cody.eileen@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">cody.eileen@gmail.com</a>>><br>
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> *Subject:* Re: [VicPiMakers Projects] Jim's<br>
> Challenge - Output 10 (caesar cipher)<br>
> Hey everyone,<br>
> <br>
> Just solved challenge #1 using Scratch. Hope the new<br>
> ‘Test’ data will work just as well. Intend on<br>
> showing you what I did at the end of my presentation<br>
> on Oct 24.<br>
> <br>
> Have a nice week,<br>
> Eileen<br>
> <br>
>> On Oct 11, 2020, at 9:15 AM, Michelle Wiboltt<br>
>> <<a href="mailto:michellewiboltt@outlook.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">michellewiboltt@outlook.com</a><br>
>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:michellewiboltt@outlook.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">michellewiboltt@outlook.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Ok, but there IS a watermark? thing...so, this<br>
>> needs to be illustrated meaning, if we’re creating<br>
>> a love �� language we want that to show in its<br>
>> entirety AND if “bad” people “break” in...aren’t<br>
>> they just asking to be included? wouldn’t it be a<br>
>> wanting but not knowing how to be a part of this<br>
>> fabulousity that is the (our) language of love ��<br>
>> So, if they “break” in doesn’t it stand to reason<br>
>> they were left out. Isn’t that our bad?<br>
>><br>
>> Also, a language of love would have to be, would<br>
>> need to, continually fortified in order for it to<br>
>> remain foundation-ally strong, right white lights?<br>
>> And, its strength comes from our ever evolving<br>
>> understanding/feeling/sensing/knowing of what our<br>
>> hearts are truly capable of and then, illustrating<br>
>> this in the majesty that WILL be our code that You<br>
>> all create, see?<br>
>><br>
>> Also, just a thought, what about that bit coin<br>
>> spin around the world tor thing...if we built our<br>
>> foundation on something like this wouldn’t this<br>
>> keep any nasty extraterrestrials at bay but<br>
>> wouldn’t it also, keep us ALL contained herein,<br>
>> safely.<br>
>> m<br>
>><br>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>
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>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:projects-bounces@vicpimakers.ca" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">projects-bounces@vicpimakers.ca</a>>> on<br>
>> behalf of Patrick McMorris <<a href="mailto:patrick@mcmorris.ca" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">patrick@mcmorris.ca</a><br>
>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:patrick@mcmorris.ca" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">patrick@mcmorris.ca</a>>><br>
>> *Sent:* Sunday, October 11, 2020 8:34:44 AM<br>
>> *To:* Talk about Raspberry Pi / embeded projects<br>
>> <<a href="mailto:projects@vicpimakers.ca" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">projects@vicpimakers.ca</a><br>
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>> *Subject:* Re: [VicPiMakers Projects] Jim's<br>
>> Challenge - Output 10 (caesar cipher)<br>
>> I agree it's not that clear.<br>
>><br>
>> If the goal to be able to simply run the existing<br>
>> code on new input bytes then yes, "BIOPSY" is<br>
>> always the decrypted word since the byte array is<br>
>> the only given input. If the word changes, that<br>
>> hasn't been specified where that input would come<br>
>> from. So, either it doesn't change or the<br>
>> description of the second input is missing.<br>
>><br>
>> But using a hard-coded word doesn't sound terribly<br>
>> interesting to code up. You could still write your<br>
>> key finding function to accept two strings of<br>
>> equal length and output the required caesar key.<br>
>> Then for question #10, call it with the word you<br>
>> extract from the input array and the hard-coded<br>
>> target word and write the output key. Then the<br>
>> problem is hard-coded but your code is more generic.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Patrick<br>
>><br>
>> On Sun., Oct. 11, 2020, 8:01 a.m. Greg H,<br>
>> <<a href="mailto:greg.horie@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">greg.horie@gmail.com</a><br>
>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:greg.horie@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">greg.horie@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> For me, the confusion is that we're intended<br>
>> to write code to derive the cipher key value.<br>
>> I did this and came up with an answer, but<br>
>> this key is only relevant "HOUVYE" / "BIOPSY".<br>
>><br>
>> So should I take this key and make it a<br>
>> constant for future inputs / encryptions?<br>
>> That's what I ended up doing with my final<br>
>> code submission.<br>
>><br>
>> I took out the code that solved the problem<br>
>> because unused code seems like lint to me, but<br>
>> maybe I should put it back to show how I did it.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On Sat, 10 Oct 2020 at 17:45, James Briante<br>
>> <<a href="mailto:briantej@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">briantej@gmail.com</a><br>
>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:briantej@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">briantej@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Hi Patrick,<br>
>> Yes, you can look at only the first<br>
>> character of the string and use it to get<br>
>> the key. Comparing all characters as the<br>
>> advantage of catching errors in<br>
>> encryption/decryption. The code is just as<br>
>> short using "compare strings" of your<br>
>> particular language.<br>
>><br>
>> In C int strcmp (const char* str1, const<br>
>> char* str2);, in C++<br>
>> *int**CompareText*(*const*AnsiString *S1*,<br>
>> *const*AnsiString *S2*); Pascal ( Delphi)<br>
>> *function**CompareText*(*const**S1*:<br>
>> *string*; *const**S2*: *string*): Integer;<br>
>><br>
>> Aside: The purpose of the final test data<br>
>> is to see if your outputs are correct when<br>
>> you run your code with the new data. It<br>
>> should work the first time with no changes<br>
>> in the actual code.<br>
>> Jim<br>
>><br>
>> On Sat, Oct 10, 2020 at 4:46 PM George<br>
>> Bowden <<a href="mailto:gtbowdeng@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">gtbowdeng@gmail.com</a><br>
>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:gtbowdeng@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">gtbowdeng@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Hi Michelle<br>
>> If you are on a laptop or computer<br>
>> using chrome, you can hold down the<br>
>> CTRL key and tap the letter u . There<br>
>> are things further back than that but<br>
>> its a start. As for ink marks showing<br>
>> through, we try to avoid that because<br>
>> it usually reveals security holes that<br>
>> the bad people exploit.<br>
>><br>
>> On Sat, Oct 10, 2020 at 1:23 PM<br>
>> Michelle Wiboltt<br>
>> <<a href="mailto:michellewiboltt@outlook.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">michellewiboltt@outlook.com</a><br>
>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:michellewiboltt@outlook.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">michellewiboltt@outlook.com</a>>><br>
>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Please help:)<br>
>> Here’s where my crazy comes in,<br>
>> see this image...<br>
>> <Image.jpeg><br>
>> Ok.<br>
>><br>
>> Now, if u could think in terms of<br>
>> front back / embroidery and its<br>
>> front back...<br>
>> So, above is a code interface? But<br>
>> where is the back front and back?<br>
>> Front would be the website, right?<br>
>> So, when I do online shopping,<br>
>> that’s the front. Where is the<br>
>> back view of the front of the<br>
>> website?<br>
>><br>
>> Another example, when writing in<br>
>> ink it can show through the<br>
>> backside when held to the light,<br>
>> kind of thing is what I’m trying<br>
>> to understand? Where’s that on the<br>
>> internet?<br>
>><br>
>> Thx<br>
>> m<br>
>><br>
>> Michelle Wiboltt<br>
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>> 8:56:49 AM<br>
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>> *Subject:* [VicPiMakers Projects]<br>
>> Jim's Challenge - Output 10<br>
>> (caesar cipher)<br>
>> I'm looking for clarification on<br>
>> output 10 - caesar cipher problem.<br>
>><br>
>> Is the intent to calculate the<br>
>> caesar cipher key value OR is the<br>
>> intent to encrypt the string with<br>
>> a pre-determined key? Initially I<br>
>> thought the question was to<br>
>> discover the cipher key value, but<br>
>> on reflection this seems fragile.<br>
>><br>
>> Reasoning:<br>
>> - "BIOPSY" will work for the 12<br>
>> integer input that leads to<br>
>> "HOUVYE", but it will not work for<br>
>> any 12 random integers.<br>
>> - You'd have to reverse engineer<br>
>> your integers starting from<br>
>> "BIOPSY" to get a valid set of 12<br>
>> integers.<br>
>><br>
>> I solved it both ways, but posted<br>
>> only the 2nd solution to github<br>
>> because only the 2nd solution will<br>
>> work for a random set of 12 integers.<br>
>><br>
>> I'm curious how other folks solved<br>
>> this one.<br>
>><br>
>> -- <br>
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>> Victoria Computer Club<br>
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>> Projects mailing list<br>
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>> Projects mailing list<br>
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>> Projects mailing list<br>
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> -- <br>
> Projects mailing list<br>
> <a href="mailto:Projects@vicpimakers.ca" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">Projects@vicpimakers.ca</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:Projects@vicpimakers.ca" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">Projects@vicpimakers.ca</a>><br>
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> Projects mailing list<br>
> <a href="mailto:Projects@vicpimakers.ca" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">Projects@vicpimakers.ca</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:Projects@vicpimakers.ca" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">Projects@vicpimakers.ca</a>><br>
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> Projects mailing list<br>
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> <br>
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