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<div style="direction: ltr;">Is it a question of overthinking? Me, I see it as a question of “over” feeling things - on steroids, no less and from here/there, building a “visual” conceptual foundation of these wonderfully warm feelings for all to see/feel/utilize
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<div style="direction: ltr;">It kind of needs to contain our existing or newly conceived of “absolute love language”...like an and. And always conjoins so, what word, string, etc? always conjoins the all of the all of us...then, we mirror our movement with/by
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<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, October 11, 2020 9:23:54 AM<br>
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<div class="" style="direction:ltr">Ok, but there IS a watermark? thing...so, this needs to be illustrated meaning, if we’re creating a love �� language we want that to show in its entirety AND if “bad” people “break” in...aren’t they just asking to be included?
wouldn’t it be a wanting but not knowing how to be a part of this fabulousity that is the (our) language of love �� So, if they “break” in doesn’t it stand to reason they were left out. Isn’t that our bad?</div>
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<div class="" style="direction:ltr">Also, a language of love would have to be, would need to, continually fortified in order for it to remain foundation-ally strong, right white lights? And, its strength comes from our ever evolving understanding/feeling/sensing/knowing
of what our hearts are truly capable of and then, illustrating this in the majesty that WILL be our code that You all create, see?</div>
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<div class="" style="direction:ltr">Also, just a thought, what about that bit coin spin around the world tor thing...if we built our foundation on something like this wouldn’t this keep any nasty extraterrestrials at bay but wouldn’t it also, keep us ALL contained
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<div dir="auto" class="">If the goal to be able to simply run the existing code on new input bytes then yes, "BIOPSY" is always the decrypted word since the byte array is the only given input. If the word changes, that hasn't been specified where that input
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<div dir="auto" class="">But using a hard-coded word doesn't sound terribly interesting to code up. You could still write your key finding function to accept two strings of equal length and output the required caesar key. Then for question #10, call it with
the word you extract from the input array and the hard-coded target word and write the output key. Then the problem is hard-coded but your code is more generic.</div>
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<div class="x_x_gmail_default"> Yes, you can look at only the first character of the string and use it to get the key. <span class="" style="font-family:euclid_circular_a,"Source Sans Pro","Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">Comparing all characters
as the advantage of catching errors in </span>encryption<span class="" style="font-family:euclid_circular_a,"Source Sans Pro","Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">/decryption. </span>The code is just as short using "compare strings" of your particular
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<div class="x_x_gmail_default">In C <span class="" style="background-color:rgb(245,245,245); color:rgb(37,38,94); font-family:"Droid Sans Mono",Inconsolata,Menlo,Consolas,"Bitstream Vera Sans Mono",Courier,monospace; font-size:14px">int strcmp (const char*
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<div class="">If you are on a laptop or computer using chrome, you can hold down the CTRL key and tap the letter u . There are things further back than that but its a start. As for ink marks showing through, we try to avoid that because it usually reveals
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